Also, this is a lion-head tibetan mastiff. I don't acknowledge post I made over 3 months ago. The Puma is a carnivorous stalker and ambush predator and pursues a … There is now way any dog, by itself, could engage a feral cat like a Jaguar. Height, Weight. Messi is 30 percent smaller than the typical male puma … His name is Zorro.  @frozen: What's a Jaguar's bite force again? Starving and intentionally harming a Puma before a fight, and then letting a Dog attack it represents nothing of what the Puma is capable of. It hatched onto it's neck long enough for the owner to arrive and stab it with a knife. The answer is no. No dramatization from a dog-loving show. Just don't reply anymore! That was what the authors of this article set to find out. It is a clarification of the actual events and not a T.V dramatization. Lions tend to not leave their food out under open sky. I used to call him to my room from anywhere in the house, then he'd come walking to jump on my bed and we would watch anime together. the reason is on your side! I have known one wolf to kill a bulldog which had rushed at it with a single snap, while another which had entered the yard of a Montana ranch house slew in quick succession both of the large mastiffs by which it was assailed. Doing a google image search will bring up comical parodies of said sign. just admit that! The dog didn't beat the puma. It can be hunted in the Parque Fernando. Ah Pacific Rim is great but, I was thinking of this Jaeger: Ah! What to do if you see a puma? But puma has equal claws, can have equal weight, and the quickness to give its own version of an ass-whoopin’ on a jaguar. Cougars are large cats, bigger than Leopards (despite Leopards being recognized as one of the four major cats). If a dog eats these, fluid may accumulate in the dog’s lungs and chest. Some accounts cite Cougars crushing the skull of a Wolf: Wolf skulls are far larger than those of a Dog. @frozen: did you saw the video until the end? Dog breeds that were bred for hunting or a specific purpose can take down wild animals such as wolves, coyotes, cougars and leopards. A mastiff, if properly trained and of sufficient size, might possibly be able to meet a young or undersized Texas wolf; but I have never seen a dog of this variety which I would esteem a match single-handed for one of the huge timber wolves of western Montana. Likewise, Cougars are powerful cats with robust limbs, they would kill dogs easily. Not a big fan of Pacific Rim(mostly because I haven't seen it yet) but interesting name for a German Shepherd I'd say. Police were called after the large cat killed a family dog in the Muskoka area. (http://members3.boardhost.com/) Vs Animal planet Dogs 101... Nice you have very credible sources! You said Dogos attack --- a Dogo attacked a Puma, it happened, however, it could not defeat the Puma and sustained injuries, and it nearly died before the owner arrived to kill the Puma. The posting I sourced was from the family that was in the Animal Planet TV spot. Enough evidence has been cited for Cats >>> Dogs. Recently a 8 month old Dogo Argentino saved two little girls by single handling mauling a full grown cougar to death. Even if a Pitbull went against a Couger, Tiger, Lion, Cheetah the Pitbull would get murdered!!!! Dogs cannot digest the sugar and fatty components that are present in cheese. A Wolf would need a pack to pose a threat to a Cougar. The dog didn't beat the puma. The Puma has an extensive habitat range. As many have alluded to on this thread, dogs are more pack hunters using group strategies to wear out their opponents. It does not prove your point. You claimed that a Dogo could not defeat a Puma yet then cite a video which (falsely) claims that it did and use that as your evidence? Post #379 you post the video for your argument of the Dogo allegedly killing a Puma. If a dogo spot a puma he will not bark and alert the owner he will attack the puma immediately, like "Morocho" did! The dog only held on for dear life until someone with a big knife came along and defeated the puma. It has reliably been documented by Wolf experts that their bite force is much higher than that of any Dog breed. I just don't thrust any theory or random sites! Cats do this. I then cite a book which you continuously ignore. They aren't as durable as the cats anyways. Cougars routinely kill lone Wolves and have been reliably documented to do this. The comparison makes no sense. PUMA｜プーマ（メンズ）の通販サイトです。ZOZOTOWNが運営。即日配送（一部地域）もご利用いただけます。 ZOZOTOWNは8112ブランドのトップス・パンツ・ワンピースなど人気アイテムを豊富に取り揃えるファッション通販サイトです。 Some more quickly than others. Sometimes the porcupine is killed (I know one dog that has killed porcupines multiple times), but most encounters I've heard of end with the porcupine uninjured and the dog owner with a $400 vet bill if the dog has to be sedated to remove quills. Meaning of Puma in the United States In the United States, "puma" has been used as slang for a cougar minus ten years; she is defined as a woman in her 30s who prefers dating younger men. Wolves(pending on the breed of course, if you want to go into extinct species dire wolves may differ the teeniest bit.) Cougars are natural predators, and cats of such size will be able to kill dogs. He said that he put the knife in the puma to kill it in the "What actually happened" posting. You need to contact us by e-mail [email protected] send us your personal ID and wait for further instructions. Mountain lion kill is typically… Note how the forest debris has been raked into a pile. But Cougars nonetheless can take on lone wolves without too much trouble (It's the packs they can't handle). A spokesman for Puma Watch North Wales says there have been a number of incidents in that part of the country. Look man, stop telling me to YouTube it. Rats however can separate their bite pattern at will. Rhodesian Ridgebacks, German Shepherds, Tibetan Mastiffs, Dingos, there are plenty of dogs that at are bred to fight off wild cats and wolf packs, so they can at the very least give a good fight. The hunters would take a group with them and hold the the lion or whatever at bay while the hunter kills them. Chobo. By this point I have no idea what you are arguing. There is no chance in the case of the Jaguar no matter what dog is used. What animal kills the most humans per year? They are not bred to take on tigers three times their size alone. and i've seen one in the wild which ran away from me and my best friend. It's been done by many breeds of dogs many times before. @bjornironside: It is not a random site. @rd189: That would not stand a chance against a Jaguar or a Cougar. Those studies demonstrated that Wolves are much more powerful than Dogs. @bjornironside: You are neglecting to acknowledge your own contradictions. That picture probably yields context. I've never heard of a cat carrying toys in his mouth, what breed is he? Even if the dog was the heavier of the two, his teeth and claws would be very much smaller and weaker and his hide less tough. sports 482 on now. These accurate and consistent reports, published over the years, demonstrated that the Mastiff, the Kangel, the Dogo, Pitbull, etc are all inferior in contrast to Gray Wolves. Last year a Chinese zoo got in trouble for trying to pass one off as a lion. @modernww2fare: Not really. 5. It has much more to do with survival instinct, which is dulled in the domestic dog. Man-eater is a colloquial term for an individual animal that preys on humans as a pattern of hunting behavior. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Theodore Roosevelt stressing the danger cornered wolves can pose to a pack of dogs in his Hunting the Grisly and Other Sketches: A wolf is a terrible fighter. Don't you get that Dogos Argentinos are not Mastiffs or German Shepard's ??? If you want to see what a real Puma can do, then here is an account of a Puma easily killing a Dog (German Shephard): http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Aggressive-Mountain-Lion-Attack-Fontana-248603131.html, Heh...now it's become the "What dog is stronger than a wolf" thread. After all this was the reason why this breed was created in first place, to be able to catch large prey not to bark at them, check the FCI link! The Boar had little in terms of tools - a Cougar is capable of killing a Dog with the swipe of it's paws and claws, which can tear a Dog apart. Is a Puma a cat or dog? A tiny box of raisins almost killed a 16-pound border terrier named Casey. Are you legitimately claiming that a savage Gray Wolf cannot kill a Wild Boar despite the fact that they have been documented to kill larger prey? Just type Dogo Agentino vs Puma and you will see that a dogo will fight the Puma! The Dogo Argentino is a pack-hunting dog, bred for the pursuit of big-game such as wild boar and puma, and possesses the strength, intelligence and quick responsiveness of a serious athlete. Hollywood celebrity Jennifer Aniston has long been associated with the term due to her relationships with younger men, most notably John Mayer (nine years younger). It's hair makes it appear much larger than it actually is. What REALLY happened with the Dogo and Puma. It prefers habitats with dense underbrush and rocky areas for stalking, but it can also live in open plains, coniferous and tropical forests, swamps and deserts. Puma, panther, cougar and mountain lion are different names for the same species of big cat that can be found from Canada to the southern tip of … The symptoms depend on the nature of the poison Man don't compare a German Shepard with a Dogo Argentino, it's embracing for both breeds, The German Shepard is probably the most complete Dog Breed in the world they can do anything (Guard, Rescue, Shepard, etc), but they were not build to hunt big prey's they don't have the dogos fearless, power and bite force, the dogo also wasn't made for (Guard, Rescue, Shepard, etc). Jaguars however HELL TO THE NAW!!! I presented videos with numbers, just do the same! I also cited you a reliable account of a Wolf destroying Dogs and being said to be superior. "Morocho" didn't bark at the puma did he??? But true pressure measurement is in psi (pounds per square inch). It is not offensive --- watch your own videos, the Dogs are yapping when it meets the Wild Boar and make frantic noise. Tibetan Mastiff are bread to protect herds from leopards. Jaguars also love water and have superior night vision, sight range, smell and hearing to a dog, i'm not sure but they also may have the longest pounce of any Cat, they also have the strongest bite force of any Big cat over 600 pounds stronger than a siberian tiger even though tigers bite force projections are using the biggest measurements of a tiger skull and Tigers can weigh over 800 pounds almost triple the weight of a jaguar. You cannot seriously compare a Wild Boar to a Puma. In addition to this, they are tougher and more savage as they are Wild Animals. Jaguars at parity can weigh 350lbs, I'd imagine a Jaguar could defeat a Tiger of a similar size. And then suffered heavy injury, while not even beating the Puma. 7: Rodenticides - Unfortunately, many baits used to lure and kill rodents can also look tasty to our pets. The Dogo Argentino fearless, muscular power, and bite force, combined are above any other dog breed, and way above any wolf, because they are product of years of artificial selection with the (Old Fighting Dog of Cordoba which was crossed at first with English Bull Dog, Great Dane, Pyrenean Mastiff, Bull Terrier, Boxer, Pointer, Dogue de Bordeaux and Irish Wolfhound). But, as the person before me said, a pack of Rhodesian Ridgebacks can kill an adult male lion that usually weights about 300 kg. Healthy Pumas, in captivity have been documented to have killed Leopards. Here. From there, all the dog did was hold it down until the owner could put a knife in the puma. So the bite area in square inch being very tiny their bite can measure up to 7000 psi, If that does not suffice, then accounts here cite that The Wolf is much more powerful than any Dog: http://carnivoraforum.com/topic/10150968/1/. Why you chose ignore the videos where we can see that the Dogos have more power than the wolfs when they both face wild boars? If ingested by dogs, they can cause severe problems. This breed can be dog-aggressive if it is alpha and has a tendency to wander. To get a better impression of their size, see the tiger head tibetan mastiff. 13 min ago '16 #3: honda x2 30 K 3 K. Cat wrestling a couple dogs gets stabbed by man. Those things hunt Silverbacks. Against a Jaguar is just slaughter, Jaguars are pound for the strongest cat and can drag an 800lb bull 25 feet. The Dogo Argentinos where used for hunting wild boar and pumas. I suppose you could say it's some rare type of lion. They would not be able to If the conditions are ideal for both sides, no dog breed can handle wolves in fair and equal fight. Seems like the owner saved the Dogo's life, and not vice versa. His. PUMA（プーマ）公式オンラインストア。限定商品や最新のトレンドアイテムまで多くを取り揃え。メンズ・レディース共に豊富なサイズ展開で便利にお買い物。 PUMAストアiPadを利用して購入の方はコ … I have a Dogo Argentino, and my uncle is a creator of Dogos, don't try to teach me how Dogos behave! @theacidskull: @theacidskull: @theacidskull: @theacidskull: @theacidskull: buy a hyena. By saying "pack" I am thinking of 5 rhodesian ridgebacks! But they are friendly and I ended up playing with one which was almost more than twice my height. I then cited you a PSI analogy to add context to your vague posts. Really? @frozen: i never said that the Dogo would win, in one on one, where are that statements (Words??? @bjornironside: You clearly did not read the threads. Dogs cannot grapple in a fight the way cats do. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Is it legal to own a lion in Dubai? @modernww2fare: There must be something else to that story, but even then that is hardly representative of such an encounter. Their skulls are much larger than that of any Dogs and because of this, they have a higher bite force. I am not going to spell it out in ABC if I have cited my consistent and reliable sources. where i said that?) and that contradicts your first statement! Puma Diet. No fake re-constructors. I told you, and you acknowledged yourself, that the Puma was under-fed and beaten before letting the Dogo attack it. NOT what happened at all. The Puma is a class 5 feline. mountain lionThe only dog capable of killing a Mountain Lion/Cougar/Puma how ever you call it.Is the Dogo Argentino. and Dogos can, if a Dogo is in a fight with a puma he will fight until dead waiting the arrival of the owner, because he wants top please him like every dog! Taxonomy. Unless its the dog from The Man Best Friend movie (that dog was either hybrid or mutated.) Ilene Dondlinger with her dog Pumba. "Again, dog breeds do not reliably hunt large male Pumas, or even those in well-health. No. …messy. A single dog cannot take a single, healthy cougar or jaguar. The information is there. They have massive frames that could kill a human by playfully jumping on them. It then goes on to state that the Wolf is much more powerful. @frozen: another random site? Last week, she brought home a puppy. Puma is a genus in the family Felidae that contains the cougar (also known as the puma and mountain lion, among other names), and may also include several poorly known Old World fossil representatives (for example, Puma pardoides, or Owen's panther, a large, cougar-like cat of Eurasia's Pliocene). Pumas are mainly tan-color, and can be up to 9 feet long, although average length is 6 – 8 feet. You'd have to be blind for that...even then. “A 20-pound dog with the courage of a 200-pound dog.” The viral story has caught the attention of many people around the world. :). That is not representative and I have no idea why you acknowledged that yet still prompt me to YouTube it. Kill is an ability in Among Us, usedonly by Impostors. If this were a premeditated fight, a human could probably learn to kill most animals with their Here is the Rat Analogy of PSI: Rats true biting force is from 0.8 to 2.8 lbs. Jaguar's are more of an apex predator than other cats, Cheetah's are faster, tigers and lions are bigger and stronger with bigger teeth and claws that can penetrate deeper but I would say the Jaguar is the most evolved for killing. But it depends how you measure it. You have cherry-picked videos. But a Great Dane, Irish Wolfhound or Akita could maybe do some damage. It makes no god-damn sense. It was legitimately clarified what truly happened here: http://members3.boardhost.com/DOGOMAN/msg/1319221148.html. I got scared when a lot of them stopped our SUV. It also has to do with skill and the fact that a mountain lion won't eat if it isnt successful in the kill. However, as both types of animals generally attempt suffocating throat attacks there is always the off chance of getting a lucky choke hold (animal version). What's is offensive is that you did not saw the video if you saw it you could't post the statements above! It's unlikely that any single dog could take a lynx, without being left seriously wounded. North of the Rio Grande, Puma concolor is doing fine. It can be hard to resist the puppy dog eyes, but you have to stay strong and refrain from giving your dog anything that contains cheese. Except he didn't say that. Did you ignore my post? There are several videos in youtube where Dogos Argentinos fight pumas by themselves, but i will not post them here because they were made by savage people that doesn't respect nature and doesn't understand the Dogo breed, that only was made for the hunt! 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